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The big 3 existed long before that
Jordan, Pippen, Rodman was a big 3
So was Bird, McHale and Parrish
The only thing LeBron did differently is instead of leaving it in the hands of executives to put a big 3 together, he got on the phone and essentially did it himself
People can hate him for that but I actually kind of respect LeBron for saying I can do this myself I don’t need anyone to do it for me, can’t really see how you can blame the best player in the world from controlling his own fate and life
Durant and especially now Cousins is completely different though, both of them are bandwagoners who chose to join well oiled machines, GS didn’t truly need either of them
Jordan, Pippen, Rodman was a big 3
So was Bird, McHale and Parrish
The only thing LeBron did differently is instead of leaving it in the hands of executives to put a big 3 together, he got on the phone and essentially did it himself
People can hate him for that but I actually kind of respect LeBron for saying I can do this myself I don’t need anyone to do it for me, can’t really see how you can blame the best player in the world from controlling his own fate and life
Durant and especially now Cousins is completely different though, both of them are bandwagoners who chose to join well oiled machines, GS didn’t truly need either of them
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He got everyone to take paycuts too and only one that no matter what Smallz says or thinks took 3 of the top 5 statistical players the year before to make that team.
You can not compare BOS either as they made trades to build that team. It wasn't literally multiple players all colluding, taking paycuts, nor making a giant scene about winning not 1,2,3,4,5,6 championships....
LeBron started this BS and GSW just finished it. If someone swings first you can not remotely blame if someone else swings back and ends the fight. Not shocked to find LeBron apologists though with how BSPN rides his dick.
You can not compare BOS either as they made trades to build that team. It wasn't literally multiple players all colluding, taking paycuts, nor making a giant scene about winning not 1,2,3,4,5,6 championships....
LeBron started this BS and GSW just finished it. If someone swings first you can not remotely blame if someone else swings back and ends the fight. Not shocked to find LeBron apologists though with how BSPN rides his dick.
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LeBron is the Goat. Yes they did take small pay cuts, Bosh was never a top 5 player in the NBA, top 15 probably but that's about it. PER is a pretty good stat, but just using that isn't really fair the players. Was Hasan Whiteside the #16 best player this year, do you think Enis Kanter in the #17 best player in the NBA? LaMarcus Aldridge finished 8th in PER this season, do you consider him the 8th best player, that's what your doing with Bosh calling him a top 5 player, he wasn't that good.
What difference does it make the GM or player get together, also Dan Gilbert is a horrible owner who was never able to but another top 30 player with LeBron in his first 7 years.
What difference does it make the GM or player get together, also Dan Gilbert is a horrible owner who was never able to but another top 30 player with LeBron in his first 7 years.
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Considering I live in the area where all of this occurred, you're not exactly correct here. All 3 of them took a paycut to play together but it was only 15M each in total cash that they left on the table. And all 3 of them had opt-outs after 4 yrs to guarantee they could get more (so they more than made up the 15M in their next deal). And all 3 opted out FWIW with Bosh & Wade signing new deals with the Heat in 2014.anthgrt-la wrote:He got everyone to take paycuts too and only one that no matter what Smallz says or thinks took 3 of the top 5 statistical players the year before to make that team.
You can not compare BOS either as they made trades to build that team. It wasn't literally multiple players all colluding, taking paycuts, nor making a giant scene about winning not 1,2,3,4,5,6 championships....
They all signed in 2010
Wade contract = 6 yrs, 107.2M
Bosh contract = 6 yrs, 110M
Lebron contract = 6 yrs, 110M
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/miami-heat/ ... -earnings/
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/miami-heat/ ... -earnings/
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/los-angeles ... -earnings/
And Wade was already on the team but Bosh and Lebron were sign & trades so thats no different than BOS since they were still trades. They had to trade 2 first round picks for Bosh and 2 first round picks for Lebron (as well as an option to swap 1st rounders) so its not like it was just signing these guys like other teams do now. Also they took paycuts so they could re-sign guys like James Jones and Haslem (his cap hit was 3M, which is basically the amount that Wade gave up) and add Mike Miller. And of their starting 5, they drafted 2 of them (Wade & Chalmers), traded for 2 of them (Bosh & Lebron) and found 1 by scouting (Joel Anthony) which is basically like drafting him. Boston's Big 3 was similar...traded for Allen & Garnett and drafted Pierce, Rondo and Perkins. And the key pieces are no different in how they were acquired, trade for 2 of the top guys and draft 1.
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So 15 million in pay cuts isn't taking pay cuts and sign & trades are the same as signed player trades in the NBA.... Done here
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Anyone wanna place bets on Kawhi remaining a Raptor beyond this season?
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Great article. Thanks for posting. However, I disagree that the Celtics should be blamed. I'm pretty sure Garnett and Allen came in trades not unrestricted free agency.
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Jimmy Butler to the 76er's, the East is looking competitive this year. Will be interesting to see if he has trouble meshing with the youngsters like he had in Minny, than again rumor has it that Butler banged KAT's girlfriend so that certainly didn't help any issues with chemistry that they had before
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Green was suspended from GSW for comments to Durant where he apparently replied with "This is why I am leaving." Nunerous sources now suggested next yr he joins LeBron and LA trades for A. Davis who changed agents to Rich Paul so makes sense. That would be a scary top 3
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Ya I never expected Durant to stay with GSW Beyond his contract, he’s got his titles so may as well move on and get a max contract somewhere
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BigMac3110 wrote:Ya I never expected Durant to stay with GSW Beyond his contract, he’s got his titles so may as well move on and get a max contract somewhere
He has been second fiddle to LeBron for a while and has been open about hating not being considered #1. How better to achieve that then turning LeBron into his side-kick. If I'm BOS and no clue how this hasn't happened... I'm overpaying to land Davis they have the assets to pull it off and still be stacked with youth.
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anthgrt-la wrote:BigMac3110 wrote:Ya I never expected Durant to stay with GSW Beyond his contract, he’s got his titles so may as well move on and get a max contract somewhere
He has been second fiddle to LeBron for a while and has been open about hating not being considered #1. How better to achieve that then turning LeBron into his side-kick. If I'm BOS and no clue how this hasn't happened... I'm overpaying to land Davis they have the assets to pull it off and still be stacked with youth.
Ya if Boston would just give up some of their youth to land another star caliber player to play with Kyrie, would be very hard to beat them in the East
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Problem is that Boston doesnt know if Kyrie is gonna stay either. If they had him locked up, they could move some guys for sure.BigMac3110 wrote:anthgrt-la wrote:BigMac3110 wrote:Ya I never expected Durant to stay with GSW Beyond his contract, he’s got his titles so may as well move on and get a max contract somewhere
He has been second fiddle to LeBron for a while and has been open about hating not being considered #1. How better to achieve that then turning LeBron into his side-kick. If I'm BOS and no clue how this hasn't happened... I'm overpaying to land Davis they have the assets to pull it off and still be stacked with youth.
Ya if Boston would just give up some of their youth to land another star caliber player to play with Kyrie, would be very hard to beat them in the East
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